GetBriefed Podcast

An inside look at life at the Bar.

Orlagh Kelly sits down with barristers, chambers staff, and legal professionals to talk about their careers, the challenges they face, and the issues shaping the profession. From AI and neurodiversity to mental health and the future of clerking, each conversation goes beyond the day job.

Hosted by Orlagh Kelly, Barrister and CEO of Briefed
★★★★★ 4.7 rating on Spotify · 34+ episodes
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Life at the Bar
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EP. 34
The Question of AI at the Bar
with Alex Ustych, Barrister, 5 Essex Chambers

AI and data protection specialist Alex Ustych on how barristers should engage with AI tools, the problem of AI sycophancy, and three core rules for using AI responsibly in legal work.

4 February 2026 · 43 min · Barristers
EP. 33
A Final Lasting Message to the Bar
with Kathryn Stone OBE, Chair, Bar Standards Board

In a second conversation as she bids farewell to the Bar, Kathryn Stone OBE reflects on seven years leading the BSB, the profession's biggest strengths and toughest challenges, and the future of regulation.

26 June 2025 · 21 min · Wider Legal Sector
EP. 32
Mastering the Art of Advocacy
with Bibi Badejo, Barrister, Advocacy Trainer and Founder of The Advocacy Coach

Bibi Badejo on the psychological pressures faced by advocates, common gaps in legal education, and strategies for building confidence in courtroom delivery.

17 June 2025 · 38 min · Barristers
EP. 31
What is the Essence of Clerking?
with Jayne Drake, Senior Clerk, St Pauls Chambers

Three decades in the clerks' room. Jayne Drake on the future of clerking as a career, how culture varies between London and regional sets, and the inevitable role of AI.

21 May 2025 · 36 min · Clerking
EP. 30
What are the Pillars of Legal Marketing?
with Sarah Longden, Chief Operating Officer, Quadrant Chambers

With nearly 30 years in the legal sector, Sarah Longden reflects on her path from marketing to leadership, the evolution of marketing within chambers, and the importance of relationships and consistency.

8 April 2025 · 30 min · Chambers Management
EP. 29
Where do barristers draw the line with traumatic cases?
with Farrhat Arshad KC, Criminal Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers

Over two decades at the Criminal Bar. Farrhat Arshad KC on the psychological toll of traumatic cases, the pressures placed on young barristers, and why senior practitioners must step up.

24 February 2025 · 44 min · Barristers
EP. 28
The Pioneer of Business in Chambers
with Vincent Denham, Chambers Director, 42BR

Known as the first-ever appointed Chief Executive in the chambers world, Vincent Denham delivers a masterclass in chambers management drawn from leading seven legal entities.

5 February 2025 · 29 min · Chambers Management
EP. 27
The Methodical Mastery of a Criminal Courtroom
with Chris Daw KC, Criminal Barrister, Author and Broadcaster

High-profile criminal barrister Chris Daw KC on his methodical mastery of judge and jury trials, the influence of media on publicised cases, and his parallel career in broadcasting.

27 January 2025 · 1 hr 4 min · Barristers
EP. 26
A Modern Perspective on an Esteemed Profession
with James Whiting, CEO, Doughty Street Chambers

After 25 years in the charity sector, James Whiting became CEO of Doughty Street Chambers in 2022. He discusses the ethos of the set, the profession from an outsider's perspective, and the importance of a chambers' roster.

14 January 2025 · 35 min · Chambers Management
EP. 25
Battling for Equality: Do barristers' core duties need to change?
with Kathryn Stone OBE, Chair, Bar Standards Board

Kathryn Stone OBE on integrity, justice and the future of legal standards, including the BSB's proposal to change barristers' core duties on equality, diversity and inclusion.

13 November 2024 · 32 min · Wider Legal Sector
EP. 24
A View of the Courtroom from the Judge's Bench
with HHJ Nigel Lickley KC, Circuit Judge and former Head of Chambers, 3PB

After 34 years at 3PB specialising in crime and regulatory law, Nigel Lickley KC joined the judiciary in 2018. He discusses the view from the bench, diversity in the judiciary, and advice for judicial applicants.

23 October 2024 · 49 min · Wider Legal Sector
EP. 23
Can Clerks Operate Successfully in a World Without Drinking?
with Andrew Love, Senior Clerk, 5RB

Senior Clerk Andrew Love candidly discusses his relationship with alcohol as a clerk, the drinking culture around chambers, and how a 'one year no beer' challenge changed his personal and professional life.

10 October 2024 · 37 min · Chambers Management
EP. 22
"Do you want to be a silk? Or become a Judge?" - Redefining the background of the barrister
with Denise Breen-Lawton KC, Joint Head of Chambers, St Pauls Chambers

The first female Head of Chambers at St Pauls, Denise Breen-Lawton KC on changing etiquette at the Bar, how family alters attitudes towards criminal work, and creating opportunity for undiscovered talent.

2 October 2024 · 41 min · Barristers
EP. 21
"Never in my life have I seen a trial like it..." - A case that turned the tides
with Nikki Alderson, Former Barrister & Specialist Coach for Female Lawyers

Former RASSO barrister Nikki Alderson on a pivotal Death Row case in Jamaica, her move from the Bar into coaching, and empowering female lawyers through tailored support.

25 September 2024 · 40 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 20
"Are you practising as a barrister yet, Mass?" - A Resilient Journey Back to the Bar
with Mass Ndow-Njie, Barrister and Founder, Bridging the Bar

Practising barrister Mass Ndow-Njie on finding an alternative route to the Bar after a setback, and his vision in founding Bridging the Bar to widen access for underrepresented groups.

18 September 2024 · 48 min · Wider Legal Sector
EP. 19
From Awareness to Action: Tackling Baby Loss Stigma in Law
with Keeley Lengthorn, Partner and Head of Public Law Children, RWK Goodman

Family and children partner Keeley Lengthorn on founding George's Law after personal loss, what organisations can do to support employees, and destigmatising baby loss in the profession.

11 September 2024 · 28 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 18
From Litigator to Men's Mental Health Champion
with Nicholas O'Neill, Chambers Director, Hundred Court Chambers

Nicholas O'Neill on the move from litigation to championing men's mental health in the profession.

28 August 2024 · 37 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 17
Aspiring Teacher to Legal Leader: What is left to learn at the top of your profession?
with Emily Martin, Senior Clerk, 4-5 Gray's Inn Square

Appointed one of the youngest ever Senior Clerks in 2017, Emily Martin on her rapid rise through the ranks, her chambers' merger, and the continuous learning that comes with leadership.

21 August 2024 · 44 min · Chambers Management
EP. 16
Triumph Over Trials: A Journey from Adversity to First Female IBC Chair
with Lucy Barbet, Director of Development and Compliance, 11KBW

From receptionist in the early 90s to Senior Clerk at 11KBW, Lucy Barbet on the buzz around clerking, her personal struggles, and becoming the first female chair of the Institute of Barristers' Clerks.

7 August 2024 · 41 min · Chambers Management
EP. 15
"If anyone breaks down, they call the AA ... a barrister calls his clerk." - 50 years of Clerking Knowledge
with David Goddard, Senior Clerk, 4 Stone Buildings

A "Legend of the Bar" who began clerking in the early 70s, David Goddard on the evolution of the chambers world across 50 years and timeless advice for younger clerks.

31 July 2024 · 32 min · Chambers Management
EP. 14
BSB Under the Spotlight: Who is Responsible for the Bar's Cultural Revolution?
with Mark Neale, Director General, Bar Standards Board

Director General Mark Neale on how the Bar is coping post-pandemic, the most pressing issues facing the profession, tensions with the Bar Council on EDI, and what a new Labour government means for the Bar.

24 July 2024 · 30 min · Wider Legal Sector
EP. 12
"When we undo the ribbon on our case..." - Are Barristers Technically Gifted but Emotionally Unprepared?
with James Pereira KC, Barrister & Coach, Francis Taylor Building

Silk and certified executive coach James Pereira KC on burnout, what happens when lifelong values collide with workplace culture, and the three areas of technical skills, relationships and presence.

19 June 2024 · 53 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 11
"We were labelled the virtual chambers when we started..." - Reimagining the Chambers Model
with Stephen Ward, Co-founder & Business Development Director, The Barrister Group

From junior clerk in 1983 to co-founder of The Barrister Group, Stephen Ward on the true meaning of clerking, fusing the chambers and business models, and expanding pupillage opportunity.

5 June 2024 · 47 min · Chambers Management
EP. 9
"We all think differently. Everyone does..." - The Untapped Potential of Neurodivergence
with Sophie Stevens, Barrister, 9BR; Co-founder, Neurodiversity in Law

Sophie Stevens on switching from theatre to the Bar, founding Neurodiversity in Law from a tweet, how far reasonable adjustments can go, and the untapped potential of neurodivergent barristers.

22 May 2024 · 35 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 8
"We see you, we hear you and it does get better..." - Reigniting the collegiate spirit of the Bar
with Imogen Robins, Family Law Barrister and Arbitrator, Pump Court Chambers

Family law barrister Imogen Robins on her experience as a young female barrister in the '90s, founding Legally Flushed to connect women in law, and the knowledge older women can pass to newer generations at the Bar.

15 May 2024 · 40 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 7
"The only reason I went to the Bar..." - A Defiant Journey to Head of Chambers
with Tina Cook KC, Head of Chambers, 42BR Barristers

A family law specialist of over 20 years and Head of Chambers since 2016, Tina Cook KC on her journey to the Bar through defiance, a post-pandemic chambers move, and what it is really like to lead.

1 May 2024 · 37 min · Barristers
EP. 6
"The old brands have got to go. The legacy has got to go." - The Merging of Chambers
with Gordon Walters, Director of Operations, DEKA Chambers

Central to DEKA Chambers' new identity since 2018, Gordon Walters on stumbling into chambers as an interim CEO, members' rights in workplace decisions, and the fresh start a chambers merger demands.

16 April 2024 · 41 min · Chambers Management
EP. 5
"You have to be all in, you can't do this on autopilot." - Bullet-proofing your personal and professional practice
with Michael Bready, Barrister, Bar of Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland barrister Michael Bready on achieving Cyber Essentials Plus certification, and his views on hot topics at the Bar from AI to mental health awareness.

10 April 2024 · 39 min · Barristers
EP. 4
"If you're a barrister, you need to be visible..." - Business Development and Strategic Marketing
with Bernard Savage, Business Development Expert

Business development expert Bernard Savage on why BD is crucial to a career at the Bar, how to use platforms like LinkedIn effectively, and the idea that "people buy people" when seeking counsel.

27 March 2024 · 31 min · Chambers Management
EP. 3
"If making a change isn't painful..." - Operating a successful Chambers
with Rowan Caffull, Chief Operating Officer, 36 Group

At The 36 Group since 2009, Rowan Caffull on finding his role through trial and error, viewing operations through a unique lens, and how imposter syndrome can affect anyone from the top down.

20 March 2024 · 31 min · Chambers Management
EP. 2
"We're here to try to support each other" - Ensuring the success of women barristers
with Nasreen Shah and Rachel Bale, Co-founders, HerBar

HerBar co-founders Nasreen Shah and Rachel Bale on their motivation for building a platform to support women barristers' careers, the hardships of pupillage, and the role men can play at the Bar.

20 March 2024 · 38 min · Workplace Wellbeing
EP. 1
"It's never too late. I'm not giving up on the KCs." - Does the barrister's lifestyle need to change?
with Natalie Connor, Former Barrister; VP Legal & Expansion, Crowdcube; Founder, Elevate

Former barrister turned tech entrepreneur Natalie Connor on her eight years at the Bar, the reasons she moved on, and what life after the Bar can look like for those feeling the same.

20 March 2024 · 30 min · Workplace Wellbeing
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Three perspectives on the profession.

Each episode falls into one of three categories, reflecting the different roles that make chambers work.

Barristers and Heads of Chambers

Practising barristers and leaders of chambers talk about their careers, the issues they care about, and how the profession is changing. Topics have ranged from AI and advocacy to mental health at the Criminal Bar.

AI at the Bar Advocacy Trauma at the Bar Equality
Clerks and Chambers Operations

Senior clerks, chambers directors, and COOs discuss what it takes to run a modern set. From the essence of clerking to the pillars of legal marketing, these conversations go behind the scenes of chambers life.

Clerking Legal marketing Business in chambers
Wider Legal Sector

Regulators, judges, campaigners, and professionals from beyond the Bar. These episodes widen the lens to cover the forces that shape the profession from the outside, from loss stigma in law to the view from the bench.

BSB Chair Judicial perspective Loss stigma in law
Orlagh Kelly, founder and CEO of Briefed
Your host

Orlagh Kelly

Orlagh is a barrister and the founder and CEO of Briefed. She started the company in 2011 after practising at the Bar, and now leads a team of seven delivering compliance training and advisory to 150+ sets of chambers across England and Wales.

On the podcast, Orlagh draws on her relationships across the profession to have the kind of conversations that rarely happen publicly. The format is simple: one guest, one conversation, no script.

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We regularly invite barristers, clerks, chambers directors, and people from across the legal sector to share their perspective. If you have a story or a topic you think the profession should hear, get in touch.

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